My motivated critics couldn’t contain their joyful glee this week at discovering my hypothetical support for a Handmaid’s Tale-type patriarchal social structure as (let’s say) hinted at in Nellie Bowles’ New York Times article presenting her take on my ideas.
It’s been a truism among anthropologists and biologically-oriented psychologists for decades that all human societies face two primary tasks: regulation of female reproduction (so the babies don’t die, you see) and male aggression (so that everyone doesn’t die). The social enforcement of monogamy happens to be an effective means of addressing both issues, as most societies have come to realize (pair-bonded marriages constituting, as they do, a human universal (see the list of human universals here, derived from Donald Brown’s book by that name).
Here’s something intelligent about the issue, written by antiquark2 on reddit (after the NYT piece appeared and produced its tempest in a tea pot): “Peterson is using well-established anthropological language here: “enforced monogamy” does not mean government-enforced monogamy. “Enforced monogamy” means socially-promoted, culturally-inculcated monogamy, as opposed to genetic monogamy – evolutionarily-dictated monogamy, which does exist in some species (but does not exist in humans). This distinction has been present in anthropological and scientific literature for decades.”
As antiquark2 points out, “for decades.” My critics’ abject ignorance of the relevant literature does not equate to evidence of my totalitarian or misogynist leanings. I might also add: anyone serious about decreasing violence against women (or violence in general) might think twice about dismissing the utility of monogamy (and social support for the monogamous tendency) as a means to attain that end.
Simply put: monogamous pair bonding makes men less violent. Here are some examples of the well-developed body of basic evolutionary-biological/psychological/anthropological evidence (and theory) supporting that claim.
The Competition–Violence Hypothesis: Sex, Marriage, and Male Aggression
“men who transition to a monogamous, or less competitive, mode of sexual behavior (fewer partners since last wave), reduce their risk for violence. The same results were not replicated for females. Further, results were not accounted for by marital status or other more readily accepted explanations of violence. Findings suggest that competition for sex be further examined as a potential cause of male violence.”
Here’s another paper, with a long list of relevant references:
Why Men Commit Crimes (and why they Desist)
Here’s some relevant sections of the latter paper (pp. 439-440).
So, let’s summarize. Men get frustrated when they are not competitive in the sexual marketplace (note: the fact that they DO get frustrated does not mean that they SHOULD get frustrated. Pointing out the existence of something is not the same as justifying its existence). Frustrated men tend to become dangerous, particularly if they are young. The dangerousness of frustrated young men (even if that frustration stems from their own incompetence) has to be regulated socially. The manifold social conventions tilting most societies toward monogamy constitute such regulation.
That’s all.
No recommendation of police-state assignation of woman to man (or, for that matter, man to woman).
No arbitrary dealing out of damsels to incels.
Nothing scandalous (all innuendo and suggestive editing to the contrary)
Just the plain, bare, common-sense facts: socially-enforced monogamous conventions decrease male violence. In addition (and not trivially) they also help provide mothers with comparatively reliable male partners, and increase the probability that stable, father-intact homes will exist for children.
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Update June 08 2018: Here’s a quote from William Buckner, who authored this piece in Quillette:
“as Henrich and his colleagues persuasively argue, ‘In suppressing intrasexual competition and reducing the size of the pool of unmarried men, normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses.’ Henrich et al. sum up their argument, writing that:
‘We propose that the unusual package of norms and institutions that constitute modern monogamous marriage systems spread across Europe, and then the globe, because of the package’s impact on the competitive success of the polities, nations and religions that adopted this cultural package. Reducing the pool of unmarried men and levelling the reproductive playing field would have decreased crime, which would have spurred commerce, travel and the free flow of ideas and innovations.’
Normative monogamy seems to have important group-level benefits, and tends to reduce the kinds of harmful behaviors associated with greater intrasexual competition, among both males and females.
Note the swift rise of the idea of ‘polyamory’, which holds that 3, 4, 5 or even more humans can share a relatively equal intimate relationship with each other. This seems extreme to most people, though paradoxically, nobody can correctly say that one lifetime partner can fulfill the emotional needs of one other lifetime partner, though this is the premise that ‘normative monogamy’ is predominantly based upon.
To have something be called ‘normative’ speaks to the historicity of behaviours. It does not necessarily speak to its correctness or effectiveness in fulfilling human desire & more successful, happier lives, to which we only need to look at todays 50%+ divorce rates & a great many more that live unhappy ;even celibate) lives in monogamy.
My point is that the term ‘normative’ includes its context as to how behaviour is coerced. While this is less aggressive than using force or threat, it is still nonetheless a subhumane modality for self-led conscious beings each with our own frontal lobe.
I’d prefer to see polyamory over coercion, which is the primary root-cause of mental illness in society.
Nonsense. If the problem is that unregulated males have problems containing their anger, the obvious answer is to “regulate” the fuck out of them.
…. And this is where your vile philosophy and way of thinking leads towards. Normal humans don’t think like this. Maybe you’d like to rethink why you are the father figure of incels?
If you had said normative monogamy instead, do you think that would have decreased the hit pieces? It seems like a more understandable term, and I’ve heard claims that it’s the more popular of the two. Certainly undeserved vitriolic garbage they’re writing about this either way.
I continue to see the at least ignorant and more likey, intentional, false attribution to Jordan Peterson of a desire to “force” monagamy in articles that reference him and his activities. It inspires in me something akin to rage when I see that sort of intentional “hit” commentary from folks that seem to now have a voice in formats duch as “Google News” One can only hope that with the currently easy access that the average reader of such malicious commentary has to the actual opinions of wise people such as Peterson, that such tactics will almost universally backfire on their purveyors.
rage? that seems rather intense. you’re mad about the attribution of the word “force”, but he literally said “enforced”? also, calm down with the thesaurus, dude.
I’m also confused. If men do better when they have one sexual partner, why does that mean women have to only have one sexual partner too? if anything we have higher odds of getting all the men sexed if some women are having sex w more than one man. and it’s interesting Peterson here shifted the focus to “not more than one partner,” when the sense in the NYT article and in places here was “at least one” partner. That’s where it gets weird. If society is shifted so men who are currently not getting sex from anyone… are getting sex from one person, how is that happening, mechanistically? Currently, no women want to have sex with this person. How are we supposed to make it so at least one woman does? Do we ignore that they don’t want to? Do we shame them for non-mono behavior, even though it’s not their behavior that it worsens and ignoring the other implications of using shame as a tool in that way? conversely are you imagining we shame men along those lines? or does the incel grow the fuck up and learn how to see women as people, not objects to be used for their personal satisfaction and the structural betterment of society? men are not entitled to sex or women. yes, there’s the idea that if the more highly desirable men were mono, the roughly equal numbers between genders mean some women would have to go lower, but the natural, nasty conclusion to that is that some women are having to deal with these gross, objectifying, otherwise violent men (and their ability to be violent doesn’t just happen in a vacuum when sex-deprived, likely just manifests / gets tabulated differently). honestly i would prefer to be single or with other women.
women are people. treating women (and access to their bodies!) as means to better men and society is gross, bad, intellectually weak, and unfortunately traditional. it’s understandable for people to dislike a solution to men’s behavior that is “waste and restrict women’s time more.” already so much of our unacknowledged time is wasted allowing for men to be careless and save time. we should change the toxic culture around how men view sex (as capital and a long list of other things) and what their ability to obtain sex means for their value, rather than innocently fanning the flames of the harmful narrative that this type of entitlement exists. that’s what saying “society should be structured so all of you can get sex” is doing.
if you hurt another human being because you have emotions, that is entitlement. you feel it’s unfair that they get what you’re entitled to, and you feel you’re entitled to damage their health safety and happiness. we need to do away with the entitlement.
to summarize: “men are less violent with not less and not more than one sexual partner” does not lead to all the conclusions for society given. moreover, no mechanism for those conclusions is given. finally, the way the conclusions are given is harmful.