Dr Jordan B Peterson and Dr. Steven Koonin discuss the IPCC reports – the globally sourced research on climate change – and how policymakers take summaries of summaries from these to justify their green agenda, despite what the reports actually suggest. They also discuss starvation, obesity, green economics, and nuclear futures.

Dr. Steven Koonin, a University Professor at NYU, has served as the Department of Energy’s Under Secretary for Science, as Chief Scientist for BP, and as professor and Provost at Caltech. He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, a Governor of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, a senior fellow of Stanford’s Hoover Institution, and a Trustee of the Institute for Defense Analyses. Koonin holds a BS in physics from Caltech and a Ph.D. in theoretical physics from MIT. He wrote the recent bestseller “Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters.”

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(0:00) Coming up
(1:16) Intro
(4:00) Areas of focus
(8:30) Caltech, the best fifth of MIT
(10:30) BP’s chief scientist for 5 years
(12:50) Why every scientist should work in the private sector
(15:25) 4 percent of the world uses 20 percent of the power
(20:25) Promising future beyond petroleum
(22:30) Biofuels, competition of farmland for fuel or food
(25:00) Instability in Europe, the problem with renewables
(27:00) Reliable, affordable, clean
(29:00) Parallel power?
(31:00) Cobalt and cost
(32:50) The perfect storm in Germany
(34:10) Polling terror and pandering
(35:20) Techno-economic realities
(37:00) 6.5 billion need fossil fuels
(39:00) The argument for mass suffering
(41:38) Malthus, population, and extinction
(45:30) IPCC Reports, the summary, and the summary of the summary
(49:20) 97 percent of scientists agree?
(51:20) Devil’s advocate, since 1980 the world has greened 40 percent
(55:00) Suspicious predictions, climate, and the stock market
(57:45) Climate models: assumptions, averages, and vertical movement
(1:03:40) Nuclear power, economics, and genuine emissions reduction
(1:08:25) The politicians scream apocalypse, the science whispers optimism
(1:12:45) Attention to loss over gains
(1:15:39) Sustained imagination, America’s obsession with short-term results
(1:19:18) Obesity is a bigger threat than starvation
(1:21:40) Credible advocates in the political sphere
(1:23:10) Cowardice in the face of cancellation
(1:26:30) The issue with the term “climate scientist”
(1:29:20) Depressing and demoralizing the next generation
(1:32:20) Public opinion, ignorant discourse
(1:34:00) Telling young people that political activism is a means of morality
(1:35:25) Critical thinking and a basis of respect

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